Kittie Rose wrote:I hope the crappy Michael Bay movie flops, the Beast Wars comic sells a zillion copies, and we get a new Beast Wars cartoon, taking off from the end of the original(disregarding Beast Machines as I like to think of it as an AU thing).
What does any of this have to do with the pre-BW Airazor toy?
The theme of this year is "Pre-BW", implying that next year will be the BW year! But there is another big Transformers thing that's very un-Beast Wars coming out(apart from Screaminator)
Actually, being the tenth anniversary, this year was the Beast Wars year. The theme of the Botcon-exclusive Transformers set (produced by Fun Publications) was what the cast looked like before Beast Wars, so a pre-BW Airazor is keeping up with this theme.
Kittie Rose wrote:I hope the crappy Michael Bay movie flops, the Beast Wars comic sells a zillion copies, and we get a new Beast Wars cartoon, taking off from the end of the original(disregarding Beast Machines as I like to think of it as an AU thing).
Yeah, that's nice. I can guarantee you that if the TF movie flops, it'll be a LONG time before we get anything truly innovative like BW in Transformers again...
Kittie Rose wrote:I hope the crappy Michael Bay movie flops, the Beast Wars comic sells a zillion copies, and we get a new Beast Wars cartoon, taking off from the end of the original(disregarding Beast Machines as I like to think of it as an AU thing).
Yeah, that's nice. I can guarantee you that if the TF movie flops, it'll be a LONG time before we get anything truly innovative like BW in Transformers again...
Why..? It'll force them to look back on what DID make Transformers successful.
I don't mind some of the designs, but the whole philosophy behind the movie and especially the vicious "anti-fan" reaction are getting to me...
If by "anti-fan", you mean "anti-fans who don't like the movie", which pretty much every movie's creators have been, ever. Plenty of fans love the new designs, me included-- I think that, at least when it comes to the movie renderings of the characters (and not the toys), they're much more realistic than Transformers have ever been, and aren't limited by the enginerring possible in a 6-inch-high-toy-- designs that WERE limited by that toy scale would look way too simplistic and toy-ish in a live action movie.
Anyways, if the movie flops, Hasbro will--rightly or wrongly-- decide that keeping Transformers on its current pre-movie track is the best direction for it, since when they tried something this different it didn't do well. The Armadaverse stylings will likely continue on for quite some time-- say goodbye to anything truly different like the Beast Wars toys, especially those that differed more radically from the traditional designs like the Transmetals and Transmetals 2. They will also decide that Transformers cannot hold a significant adult audience, and thus will aim the series at younger and younger audiences. Thus, also say goodbye to shows that are well-written and deep, and hello to more and more of the third-rate Anime shows we've been getting since Robots in Disguise. Also, because Hasbro has put so much time and money into this, if the movie flops, they'll likely think that Transformers doesn't have enough of an audience period. After the next post-movie series, which is already starting to be planned out. I wouldn't be surprised if we went to post-G1, pre-BW toy levels. I.e, about a dozen toys a year, just redoing the same popular G1 characters over and over again, and full of repaints. Transformers will be in a slump it hasn't experienced in 15 years, and that nearly killed the line back then. That's how businesses work-- if they take a big risk like this movie and it doesn't work well, they massively shift their focus to other properties they own. They will NOT take another chance with a series as different as Beast Wars. Want proof that this is how they think? Look no further than Beast Machines. Like it or love it, though Beast Machines didn't outright bomb, it didn't do so hot. Thus, instead of further advancing the alien-esque, hyper-futuristic look in the next planned series, Transtech, likely with an American-written show with at least mediocre, if not better, writing, they scrapped that and instead we got Robots in Disguise (a completely filler series brought over from Japan), Armada, Energon, and Cybertron. Though many of the toys were good in their own rights, they were hardly taking the line in a new direction, and the shows were pure pap. They just kept milking the same aesthetic and bare-bones storyline over and over. Many fans who loathed the BM show when it was airing now long for writing of that caliber.
