Transformers:Prime (Spoilers Within)

[Beastbot]

She got bit. Going through the episode again, there's a bit of a suspicious cutaway when zombie Cylas sends his tongue-thing at her, but before she webs up out of his reach and blasts him back. That's almost certainly when he bit her. Why she didn't almost immediately become a mindless energon zombie, though, is beyond me.

I imagine this episode was all about tying up loose ends (synthEn, Airachnid, Cylas). I doubt we'll see any of those again, given we only have 5 more episodes of the series left (8 more if you count the Predacons Rising mini-movie that's supposed to end the series). Though given the location of the Beast Hunters comic so far and the mystery in the first comic, it's QUITE possible Airachnid will re-appear in that comic within the next few issues...

But man, although it certainly had some great moments, I would hesitate to call "Thirst" Y7. If I was a kid that episode would've given me nightmares.

[DarkSpark]

Did anyone else think of the Reapers from Blade II when they saw the extendable mandibles on the Vampire cons? And they were honestly more like vampires than zombies to me lol. Lemme see...Deceptivamps? Vampirocons? Deceptipires? lol

But yeah, I too got the feeling this episode was more about tying up lose ends than anything deeper or more profound, killing off half of the cons, banishing Airachnid to a dead moon, Knockout's synthetic energon, ect. I think the episode would have been better if Starscream and Knockout had actually played a part in defeating the creatures, as opposed to demonstrating how inept they truly are at this point...Really, truly inept...And calling attention to how dumb it is for Megatron to keep either of them around XD. It was interesting at first to see the two of them working together, but it didn't really end up going anywhere. Soundwave's defeat of Airachnid was pretty epic though.

P.S. if Megatron DOESN'T kill Starscream after he cost him HALF HIS FORCES I honestly have to question his intelligence at this point

[Wicked Woman]

She got bit. Going through the episode again, there's a bit of a suspicious cutaway when zombie Cylas sends his tongue-thing at her, but before she webs up out of his reach and blasts him back. That's almost certainly when he bit her. Why she didn't almost immediately become a mindless energon zombie, though, is beyond me.

I imagine this episode was all about tying up loose ends (synthEn, Airachnid, Cylas). I doubt we'll see any of those again, given we only have 5 more episodes of the series left (8 more if you count the Predacons Rising mini-movie that's supposed to end the series). Though given the location of the Beast Hunters comic so far and the mystery in the first comic, it's QUITE possible Airachnid will re-appear in that comic within the next few issues...

But man, although it certainly had some great moments, I would hesitate to call "Thirst" Y7. If I was a kid that episode would've given me nightmares.

I loved this ep, and Beastbot you're right, she got scratched. You see it as she's waiting for an Insecticon to approach her. Since it was only a scratch and she wasn't drained of energon she wasn't turned into a ghoul, she became a Carmilla.


WW

[DarkSpark]

So....What did everyone think of the last episode of transformers prime? Personally...I hated it >_<

1) Megatron killed by Bumblebee, who honestly had little presence throughout the course of transformers prime since they kept that stupid R2D2 talk thing from the Michael Bay movies in place. Megs should have met his end by the hands of Optimus Prime, his arch rival for life, something which had been building up to since the beginning of the series...I realize in real life arch rivalries don't always end like that, but come on, Megs vs Optimus has been an iconic rivalry for years, its just wrong for anyone else to finish Megs off but Prime. Plus...Considering how Optimus Prime had nearly zero character development over the course of the series (seriously, all he ever did was ignore his troops unless there was a mission to do or a stoic speech to be made or a word of wisdom to be imparted lol), robbing him of what should have been his shining moment of glory, is just disappointing.

2) Wheeljack, Ultra Magnus, and Bulkhead didn't get to do ANYTHING, their thunder was totally stolen by the human characters, as if any kids watching at home wanted to see the kids beat the decepticons instead of their favorite autobot heroes. I mean, if Hasbro wants kids to buy their toys, maybe they should have them actually DO SOMETHING INTERESTING on the show lol. This was supposed to be the final battle between the bots and cons and there weren't nearly as many final showdowns as you'd expect.

3) Miko in a power suit designed for cybertronian use, not organic use...AGAIN, nough said

4) Soundwave, Megatron's most loyal and competent soldier, being trapped in the Shadow Zone forever, by children...Children

5) An entire ship full of Cons were overtaken by children and a handful of autobots...I realize their numbers had been dwindled by past events but come on, the autobots met with barely any resistance at all, why does Megatron keep those vehicons around?

6) Bumblebee returning from the grave...Really? That's rather convenient, you'd think a smart guy like Megs would have been aware of something like that mech goo being able to revive the dead better than dark energon can apparently considering Bumblebee's spark was clearly extinguished, & makes the emotionally powerful sight of Bumblebee being shot dead rather pointless & inconsequential. Of all the characters on that show Prime Bumblebee had the least presence, him sacrificing his life to get the Star Saber to Optimus so he could finish Megatron probably would have been the most important and deepest contribution he could have given to the series, and him dying would have given more emotional impact to the episode, especially given the supposedly more mature nature of the show (& their rule concerning how when someone on Prime dies they stay dead). Instead, he miraculously rises from the grave, attacks Megatron from behind (something I'm sure autobots would call cheap or cowardly if a decepticon had done it), and FINALLY regains his voice, at the end of the series when it no longer matters whether he can talk or not because he won't have anymore characterization beyond that point.


Sorry for the rant gang, I really needed to vent after watching that episode (an episode I actually tried to avoid watching for a week or so because i got as far as "miko in a power suit" & realized I'd probably just be annoyed by the episode if I finished it...And I should have listened to my first instinct lol).

Its cool if anyone actually liked the episode (to each their own after all), but in the end I found TFP to be a rather unsatisfying series, the ending just driving that home for me (I'd actually stopped watching the show a while back but figured I'd give it another try & at least see how it all ended...probably should have quit while I was ahead lol).

[BiffyPrimal]

So....What did everyone think of the last episode of transformers prime? Personally...I hated it >_<

I thought it was enjoyable but not great. I'm not sure that the whole Bumblebee death and come-back-to-life thing should have been done.

Its cool if anyone actually liked the episode (to each their own after all), but in the end I found TFP to be a rather unsatisfying series, the ending just driving that home for me (I'd actually stopped watching the show a while back but figured I'd give it another try & at least see how it all ended...probably should have quit while I was ahead lol).

I'd agree that the series was largely unsatisfying. The show didn't really get that interesting to me until this last "Beast Hunters" season. I'm sure that is because of my Beast Wars affinity, even though we really only got one beast. It is a shame too, because I feel like this last season was rushed and that the show would have turned about better if they had an additional season to explore the "Beast Hunters" concept.

By the way, my favorite characters from the series are Shockwave and Ultra Magnus.

Does anyone else miss significant body changes for the main cast (like Transmetals)? Sure, a lot of the Transmetal stuff in Beast Wars was probably to sell toys, but the sweeping body changes at least felt meaningful and helped freshen up the look of the show. I'm kind of tired of most of the cast having the exact same bodies for an entire series. It probably doesn't help that Hasbro has been using almost the exact same cast ever since the recent Transformers movies started.

[Alak]

I enjoyed the episode, but I didn't exactly sit there with high expectations. I watched the final 4 episodes online in order to catch up, so by the time the last one was playing, I was already in the zone. Bumblebee killing Megatron was definitely surprising. It took the franchise out of its usual element and I actually thought that could be a good and bad thing. Good, because Optimus killing Megatron has been done and recycled many ties. The change here was unexpected and refreshing. Bad, because it only cements the rise of the the kid-friendly Bumblebee. Michael Bay was responsible for making Bumblebee cool to the mainstream audience, and now this show helped reinforced that perception.

[DarkSpark]

Biffy wrote: Does anyone else miss significant body changes for the main cast (like Transmetals)? Sure, a lot of the Transmetal stuff in Beast Wars was probably to sell toys, but the sweeping body changes at least felt meaningful and helped freshen up the look of the show. I'm kind of tired of most of the cast having the exact same bodies for an entire series. It probably doesn't help that Hasbro has been using almost the exact same cast ever since the recent Transformers movies started.

I actually liked that they kept their forms consistent, and was disappointed when Optimus Prime was upgraded by the forge of Solus Prime. Granted, I'm glad Hotr...er...Smokescreen didn't become a Prime instead, but Optimus' new form was just so...Obviously a toy XD. Don't get me wrong, I realize the Transmetals were a toy gimmick too, but for many of the Beast Warriors their new forms were great improvements over their old forms and helped to keep the story interesting without throwing in a bunch of new characters (which they sadly couldn't do because CGI is expensive & they could only afford so many character models). Prime's new form just came off as unnecessary, since the series had already established that being a Prime allows you to use all manner of frankly unfair super powers, namely using ancient relics like the Forge or the Star Saber that no one else can wield...And yet Bumblebee was able to "kill" Megatron with said "Prime only" blade >_<

Prime didn't need a laser gatling gun (he already had two swords and two rifles, whereas Megs & many other cons only had one gun & one melee weapon) and jet pack that lets him fly in robot mode, something that NO OTHER transformer in the series could do, not even Megatron. Maybe its just me, but Prime's "Beast Hunter" upgrade seemed kinda clunky or disproportionate as well, not really natural like all the other transformer's bodies.

Did anyone else notice that the Decepticons lost alot of guys over the course of the show? Whereas the Autobots lost no one? Okay, Cliffjumper died within minutes of the first episode, but unless you were a G1 fan, ya had no reason to be emotionally attached to this guy, and Tailgate died in a flashback and we never saw his face. The autobots kept getting new guys, but the cons kept losing em.

Alak wrote: I enjoyed the episode, but I didn't exactly sit there with high expectations. I watched the final 4 episodes online in order to catch up, so by the time the last one was playing, I was already in the zone. Bumblebee killing Megatron was definitely surprising. It took the franchise out of its usual element and I actually thought that could be a good and bad thing. Good, because Optimus killing Megatron has been done and recycled many ties. The change here was unexpected and refreshing. Bad, because it only cements the rise of the the kid-friendly Bumblebee. Michael Bay was responsible for making Bumblebee cool to the mainstream audience, and now this show helped reinforced that perception.

I don't think Optimus Prime has ever killed Megatron in any of the cartoon shows, except Transformers Cybertron I think...And his execution of Megs in the Bayformer film was just...awful XD.

What do you mean by the rise of the "kid friendly" Bumblebee? I mean, wasn't Bumblebee popular before Michael Bay turned him into an R2D2 knockoff who pisses on govt agents? lol, honestly, I think modern writers have forgotten that Bee is supposed to be the underdog, lovable kid brother figure of the autobots (though brave and determined to prove himself), rather than somesort of "ace warrior who's a scout yet not a scout" XD. I do miss his original design and Volkswagen vehicle mode (the games did a good job of updating his old look), he really doesn't resemble Bee much at all these days beyond his paint job. Its ironic really, if Bee had kept his humanoid mouth and face he probably could have expressed himself better on the show, whereas the presence of a mouth on Optimus was wasted since he was usually rather unemotional.

Don't get me wrong, I didn't like how Bee, the least well developed autobot character, took down Megs and spoiled what should have been the final showdown between him and Optimus...And to top it all off, he FINALLY got his voice back, in the last episode, when it no longer mattered if he could talk or not. Still, I'll give the animated film "Predacons Rising" a chance and hope that it wraps up the series better than the show did, especially since it seems Megatron will be receiving a Galvatron style upgrade and recovering from Bee's attempt on his life (courtesy of Unicron of course lol).


Anywho, TFP DID have its good points in spite of its many flaws (should probably make a pros and cons list lol), though season 3 was really rushed and ended on an unsatisfying note

[BiffyPrimal]

Maybe its just me, but Prime's "Beast Hunter" upgrade seemed kinda clunky or disproportionate as well, not really natural like all the other transformer's bodies.

I agree. While I wanted some character upgrades, Prime's upgrade was pretty bad.

Did anyone else notice that the Decepticons lost alot of guys over the course of the show? Whereas the Autobots lost no one?

I noticed that too. While I liked the new characters introduced on the Decepticon side, I didn't like how the new characters often died so quickly.

[Primus]

Hey guys, I absolutely loved the whole Transformers Prime series. They did a fantastic job.

I can't wait for the new spin-off series to begin.

I thought the way they killed off Prime (self-sacrifice) was a noble & befitting send off. Megatron's realisation was fantastic too (really hope he makes a return as a good guy).

I'm totally stoked to see what the writers come up with & will be impressed to see who will be lending their vocal talents to the new show.

[DarkSpark]

Maybe its just me, but Prime's "Beast Hunter" upgrade seemed kinda clunky or disproportionate as well, not really natural like all the other transformer's bodies.

I agree. While I wanted some character upgrades, Prime's upgrade was pretty bad.

Did anyone else notice that the Decepticons lost alot of guys over the course of the show? Whereas the Autobots lost no one?

I noticed that too. While I liked the new characters introduced on the Decepticon side, I didn't like how the new characters often died so quickly.

Agreed, the bots suffered zero casualties while the cons kept dropping like flies to make room for new characters...And its honestly hard to take the Decepticon forces seriously when Megatron can't take out a handful of bots with an entire warship full of cons

[Wicked Woman]

Just got the Covenant of Primus (pre-ordered, w00t!) and it's pretty good so far.


WW