Compiled notes from Ben Yee on IDW's BW Profile books

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Compiled notes from Ben Yee on IDW's BW Profile books

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I can't recall if I'm dropped any additional notes for the forthcoming BW Profile Books since they were first announced (they'll be released in October, for those who've forgotten), so I'm just making a new thread. Since I can't remember what I did or didn't say about the books before, to make things easier, I'll just make a big summarized listing of the notes that Ben Yee has stated in a thread on the IDW Forums.

* As you probably already know, Yee will be working with Simon Furman on this project. A full backstory has been worked out in blending all the characters together, taking into account Beast Wars and Beast Machines. The old "3H BotCon" story threads, however, will not be acknowledged. The mini-series is believed to run for four issues, but IDW will make the final call.

* Characters from the Japanese-exclusive BW series (BW II and BW Neo) will also appear in the books, along with the North American ones. This will also include the likes of the BWII Seacon-like Pirates, Megastorm and his upgraded form Gigastorm, etc.

* Toy characters who didn't appear in the shows will also be in the books (however, many of them had appeared in the recent comic series).

* A few G1 homages will be present; one of these few ones will include BW Grimlock, who WAS stated in his Tech Specs that he really was the original Grimlock in a new Maximal body.

* Unlike most of the earlier BW toy packaging, the characters in this mini-series WILL have mottos.

* The Predacon ship will be called "Good Ship Lollipop." Just kidding :lol: ; it's still the Darksyde. :)

* Although BWII and BW Neo will still stand on their own as separate series from the Mainframe-produced BW show, certain elements from the Japanese series have been borrowed and integrated to make a slightly hybrid-ized BW mythos. This was due to mentions of Magmatron, originally a BW Neo toy, having been released as part of the Beast Machines-era "Dinobots" sub-line, among others, even though they're not all being merged into one massive convoluted migrane-inducing mess.

* Regarding the situation with the Scavenger toy resembling a Transmetallized Inferno; the two will be treated as separate characters.

* Japanese names will be retained, so Lio Convoy won't be renamed into something like "Leo Primal".

* Somehow, the elements from BWII and BW Neo that the backstory will be following -- I believe it's the "Unicron Capsules" theme -- will take place before the Mainframe story. (How they're going to do that, this I gotta see.)

* Characters that share a name in the same series will also be made separate characters, even if neither appeared in the shows or comics. One example is Prowl, whose name was used by a Transmetal 2 owl and the lion segment from the Magnaboss Combiner.

* Transmetal toy versions of characters who did not get Transmetallized in the show (like Rhinox and Waspinator) will be given brief sub-entries into their main profiles.

* McDonald's BW Toys... Yee only teased us, but who knows?

* Beast Machines' events will be incorporated into as least one character's profile. But there are no plans to make a Beast Machines profile book yet.

* A note will be made on TM2 Prowl, drawing from his toy's Tech Specs that said he thought he was a military strategist in a former life.

* The bat version of Primal and the gator version of Megatron will be given VERY brief mentions.

* For those who don't know, during the first year of BW, Hasbro had released a pair of Micro Machines-like mini-playsets (each with two tiny non-transforming figurines), one for each side. The Maximal mini-playset was an orca (or killer whale) name Orcanoch; the Pred base was a spider named Arachnid. Believe it or not, even though these toys were never featured in any official fiction before... both these toys will be getting profiles, too!

* Noting how many of the BW Japan toys were repainted from toys that didn't appear in the Mainframe show, these characters will still be considered separate characters from each other. For example, Manterror from Hasbro's BW and Mantis from BW II will each be given separate profiles. The basic rule is, if a character has a different name in Japan, he or she will be a separate character. This, however, will lead to two Magnabosses; while both the Hasbro and Japanese versions of the team had different names for the individual team members, their combined forms will still share the same name (which they plan to make note of in the books).

* The so-called "Egg Beasts" from Japan will not be appearing. ;)

* BotCon-exclusive BW toys will be included. This should cover the likes of Antagony, Packrat and Vicegrip; as well as BotCon Japan-exclusive toys, including Double-Punch.

* However, characters from the "3H BotCon" story who didn't have toys (such as The Covenant) will not be appearing, given that the 3H BotCon storyline will not be used.

* Fox Kids repaint jobs of already-existing characters will NOT be getting separate profiles or artwork. That would be redundant.

* While the BotCon-exclusive toy Sandstorm was revealed as a member of the Covenant in the 3H BotCon story, this will be changed in the new Profile Books.

* Onyx Primal will return to being a Predacon.

* The BotCon 2006 exclusives won't be addressed into the books; the toys weren't ready in time before the profile books' deadlines. As I understand it, pre-BW body forms won't be addressed.

* There will be no mention of "Megatron X", which was a character that only appeared in an old BW Transmetals game for Playstation.

* The Japanese BW mangas won't be incorporated, either; their stories are already separate from the animated stories. Doing so would convolute things even worse, especially with the handling of Ravage from the mangas.

* Una and Jak and othe protohumans from the Mainframe show were considered being included, but ultimately, they will not be appearing.

* G1 Starscream will be getting a brief mention (and he's completely separate from BWII Starscream).

* Also getting a profile... Transmutate.

* A glossary section is expected to be included for smaller "odds 'n' ends" tidbits.

This is the most recent update regarding the build-up to these profile books. If you wish to see more detailed discussion, the URL to this thread is just below, as more questions and comments are still coming in (it's at 14 pages so far, and still growing!):

http://forums.idwpublishing.com/cgi-bin ... =22;t=1318

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Wow, thanks for all the neato information, Outtsyder! I never heard about most of that. You should post this on the major boards, man.

I never dreamed they'd also include the Botcon toys-- that's pretty cool! I'm not too crazy about them including all of the Japanese characters, though, especially the ones that were barely repainted from the original versions, that's just going to get confusing...
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Beastbot wrote:Wow, thanks for all the neato information, Outtsyder! I never heard about most of that. You should post this on the major boards, man.
I'm actually kind of surprised this hasn't been mentioned on the larger TF boards, yet. I culled all this info from the IDW Forums, and I'd have thought somebody may have considered reporting these news tidbits to places like TFW2005 by now. Eh, well; if they haven't yet, maybe I'll go ahead and do it.
Beastbot wrote:I never dreamed they'd also include the Botcon toys-- that's pretty cool! I'm not too crazy about them including all of the Japanese characters, though, especially the ones that were barely repainted from the original versions, that's just going to get confusing...
Eh, I'm sure they'll figure something out. Although I just gotta see how they're going to handle having two Magnabosses...!

And earlier today, Ben Yee has revealed some more info, which I can summarize right here!

* As stated before, the events of Beast Machines will be affecting a couple of the profiles in the book. However, there won't be any straight-up Beast Machines profiles in the Beast Wars profile book.

* Maijin Zarak, a character who appeared in the Japanese BW2 movie, will not be mentioned. He was considered to be included, but was ultimately dropped.

* The Vok will be mentioned in the last issue of the book, and will be conencted to The Swarm from the Generation 2 comic series (as BW story editor Larry DiTillio had intended).

* Members of the Tripredacus Council will each receive their own entries, as well as a collective entry in the glossary. Also getting more descriptions in the Glossary entries will be the Pax Cybertronia and the term "The Matrix".

* No mention of BW2 Galvatron having a "Matrix", nor the "Matrix Cannon" that BW Neo's Big Convoy has.

* There won't be a thorough discussion on the TF religion, but a few profiles may mention individual beliefs where appropriate.

* Contrary to some fan speculation, TM2 Dinobot is Dee-Ee-Ay-Dee.

* While there won't be an explanation for Waspinator's return to Cybertron in Beast Machines (which would take away from the BW-only focus), Yee says there is "an interesting twist into his profile that you'll have to buy the book to see." (Personal Note: Why do I get the feeling it'll be similar in style to the Bio note on 10th Anniversary Waspinator? :lol: )

* The "mutant heads" from some of the toys will be discussed in a few of the appropriate profiles.

* Transmutate's entry will focus on her BW appearance, with no mention of the protoform's backstory. Also of note: Yee's statement in the thread actually referred to Transmutate as a female.

You can find slightly more detailed comments from Ben Yee himself right here:

http://forums.idwpublishing.com/cgi-bin ... 318;st=150 (new comments posted near the top of this page)

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Awesome info! 8) I'm reading the thread on the IDW forums now for more info!

I just hope I can find the books near me...I haven't found the BW Gathering comics yet... :cry:
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Some more notes from Wonko Da Sane himself:

* The characters in the BW Mutant sub-group -- Icebird, Poison Bite, Razorclaw and Soundwave -- will still have their powers as mentioned in their toy Tech Specs. Yee's also stated that Megatron will have an influence in their creation.

* Because some fans believe many of the Protoforms in stasis pods came from pre-existing TFs, a few of the profiles will address those characters' reasons for joining the mission on the Axalon.

* The "Marvel Universe" style of layout will be used for these profiles.

http://forums.idwpublishing.com/cgi-bin ... 318;st=160 (fourth post down)

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