Continuity?
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:00 pm
Do you guys prefer a story written in continuity or not?
I hear alot of people hate when someone writes out of canon.
I hear alot of people hate when someone writes out of canon.
SkyxDB wrote:Honest to me it doesn't manner if a story is with in cannon or AU/or deviates from canon as long as it good.
Do me there's nothing wrong with AU or deviating from canon a little, becuase sometimes playing with alternatives to what happened in canon can be interesting.
But if a story sticks ot canon then I'm find with that too, becuase one can write good stories relating to canon events as well.
Than she'll need to specify that it's based off Comic continuity, since I and I'm sure some others, weren't aware of the comics or just never read them, and as such, have no idea about it's story line.Nurann wrote:Sorry guys, I'm just skimming, so pardon my response if it seems a bit off.
I'm becoming a bit of a canon whore too. Never used to be, but the more reading I do, the worse I get. A little AU isn't so bad, as long as it's plausible. Otherwise I'm starting to skip those fics more and more...
Sorry, I don't mean to contradict you slightly LV, but Tigatron and Airazor become separate identities again in the Wrecker's comics... Same with DC in the Universe line. They are somewhat free game thanks to those story lines
Actually, that's a misconception. Waspinator being slung-shot was fore comedic purposes. He traveled back to Cybertron on his own power (being a flier and all, but the science still doesn't make sense since it'd take more than just a couple hundred years). Also, since you're a lover of canon-based fan fiction, isn't it counter-intuitive to disregard the Beast Machines continuity?Lady Venom wrote:While I agree they were floating around, I think it was actually the help of the Vok in Beast Wars, in Beast Machines, well canon was screwed up the wazoo for that one, so I don't use BW/TF canon with BM, as it has it's own brand of logics(Waspinator heading back to Cybertron from the very first sling shot? Pff, yea THAT happened.. )
Like Nurann said, the Vok separated the sparks in the "Wreckers". However, I strongly feel that the canon of this comic line is debatable since it was never even completed. Plus, a lot of the events that happened in there were a bit...sketchy.Lady Venom wrote:BUT, the Vok also combined the two sparks, and once a spark is combined like that, I do think it would be nay impossible to separate them.
Like Nurann said, the Universe comics confirmed DC's death. Optimus Primal chose to bring him and Rhinox back to life, and you have to actually have to be dead in order to be brought back to life.Dalgaroth wrote:for DC... :/ Inferno's strong and badaft, but so is DC. Inferno blasted a whole pile of energon to try to destroy the Maximals and because of all the panic over energon overload, I was SURE he was dead. xDD I mourned. Next episode, he stumbles out, disoriented and hops right up next to Megatrn again to help him fight/arge with Optimus. xD
I srsly think Depth Charge is capable of doing that too, especially if he has the will to get back up and make dead sure Rampage is gone. :'D No, in my story, it gets AU right off te back. The energon crystal he used to kill Rampage acted liek a cunductor (like quartz) and caused their sparks to fuse. Therefore, DC was able to heal completely. Despite that, however, if I left their sparks alone, I still think there's a CHANCE he survived and it's that chance I'm using in my story.
Go for it. Despite being a huge factor in the cartoon, we really don't know the full extent of what the Vok are capable of. We knew they could build big infrastructures that can generate and focus energy on a target, and such weapons can differentiate between energy weaponry and sentient energy signatures. We found out only 3 episodes before the series finale that they could fuse sparks, inhabit other lifeforms, pass through solid matter, create a new body from their natural energy, etc. "The Wreckers" only adds to their list of powers, so I'm sure your story won't ruin the canon at all. Anything you can come up with is plausible.Dalgaroth wrote:Oh wait, the Vok again - once more, in the show, the Vok's abilities and physical prowess were not explained either. From what we saw, they were able to create physical things and send them to earth, and they could also possess physical things and give them life like sparks. (Tigerhawk seemed like Tigatron with a cold, sinister twist, possibly because his programming was the same as Tigatron's but he had a different spark - Vok. The Vok may or may not be able to puppet directly fro mthe spark chamber, but maybe they give a general direction while they're in there, while the programming carries it out. Like switching souls but not minds.). But physical things cannot affect them the same way they can hurt other physical things. So, in my story, I say that the Vok pieced Tarantulas's body back together using powers, not pretty, and used two blank protoforms to give themselves bodies, bodies they upgrade, in order to destroy the bots themselves, in person. They can't float around on their own for very long, according to my story's manipulating of the canon, because our world is a huge mix of physical and energetic Ness that "tears" at the delicate ethereal/physical essence of the Spark or Vok. so they need bodies. I figure that, until you see them in that one episode for like 3 seconds, they always have a body of some sort. And then the ray blew Tarantulas up, but the Vok are powerful anyways, so his destruction doesnt necessarily mean his death. Especially since he's not a Primus Behbeh. :/ He be a Unicron Behbeh.
That's awesome. I personally have always wanted to see how a BW fan would revamp BM, and I reimagined it many times myself. Can't wait to read it.Dalgaroth wrote:What I plan to do in the story is bring Beast Wars back into Beast Machines.
:shakes head: Like I said, I'm disregarding the comics and retconned stuff, except for the couple times that I've used them as reference to determine if something could be considered a canon possibility in my story. Probably the biggest insertion of fanon I'm doing is the whole bonding thing, since that's never happened in the shows. I'm reallly trying hard to explore loopholes in the canon and explain stuff in canon that was never explained, to construct my story.the "Wreckers"
Nice idea, maybe Tigerhawk will actually live for more than 24 hours lol.Dalgaroth wrote:Thanks! I'm still not sure if Beast Machines will be a second fic, but in the end of my story, DC and his group end up back at Cybertron where their actions in the past helped change the future and in turn the Maximals currently trying to save Cybertron. But in doing so, they also help change the nature of Beast Machines and I start to blend the canon of both so that Beast Machines is more Beast Warsish AND is written a way I like. However, I COULD go back and assume everyone's dead and rewrite only Beast MAchines the way I'd want it to go which was another idea I had but it doesn't have my faves in it, save Jetstorm but...yeah. lol!!!
Another idea was to change the Nemesis episodes and continue the Beast Wars in a Fourth Season. Surely I'm not the only one who thought of this, but I've yet to read one I liked.
Well, the comics take place after the events of Beast Machines, so it's only logical that they're published after the tv series ends. I'm still a bit uncertain on the significance of the whole "bonding" thing. Is it going to be like the bond that Rampage and Dinobot II had, or will DC and Rampage have the ability to merge together like Star Saber + Victory Leo = Victory Saber? Oh, and disregarding the Universe comic line means that you're missing out on Depth Charge going all Batman on a corrupt Blackarachnia:the "Wreckers"
:shakes head: Like I said, I'm disregarding the comics and retconned stuff, except for the couple times that I've used them as reference to determine if something could be considered a canon possibility in my story. Probably the biggest insertion of fanon I'm doing is the whole bonding thing, since that's never happened in the shows. I'm reallly trying hard to explore loopholes in the canon and explain stuff in canon that was never explained, to construct my story.
According the comics, DC is dead and is revived at some point and blah, but I am not considering it canon for my fics since it didn't come first. The show did. :/ For the purposes of my story, I'm ignoring the Extra Canon and going with the original canon so I can play around with what that gave me. I never read the comics, so I wouldn't know the ins and outs and subtleties of them, so I can't use them anyway. n_n