Transformers:Prime (Spoilers Within)

[Beastbot]

I think they might switch back-and-forth. If he ends up getting Breakdown's body with no obvious visual modifications, he'd probably try to infiltrate the Decepticon ranks in it, and thus he'd need Breakdown's voice for that. (We already know they have the tech to switch the robot's voices from the most recent ep.)

[Alak]

Well... it was a filler episode this weekend, but at least the ending was funny. While I may be looking too deep into the matter, there were possibly some hints dropped about future events.

- We may get to see a big, final showdown between Arcee and Airachnid before Season 2 ends.
- There's a possibility for Dreadwing to switch sides.

[starshadow]

Why can't there be more femmes in this fandom like Elita 1?

[Beastbot]

...Which version?

[starshadow]

TFP. I was hoping for Nightbird or Elita to be in it but eh...sadly they're not.

[Beastbot]

...Wait, what? I'm not understanding you. Are you asking why can't more femme characters be like a femme character that doesn't exist? Elita-1 has been different in every continuity she's been in, she would likely be different in Prime as well. Especially considering how different Prime Arcee is from most of her other versions...

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Elita_One

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Elita-One_%28Movie%29

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Blackarachnia_%28Animated%29

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Elita-One_%28SG%29

[starshadow]

Nonono I meant why can't there be more femmes in the TFP fandom? I was hoping the creators of TFP could make a Prime version of canon femmes such as Nightbird or G1 Elita. If I could remember, someone in a website (I forgot) said Airachnid was Elita 1 because Elita 1's was kidnapped, rebuilt and reprogrammed by a decepticon, that's how Airachnid was created. I'm not sure if this statement is true but I hope it's not.

[Phoenix]

I'm probably the last one able to comment on this show since I've only seen the very first 6 or so episodes (the intro mini series) and I don't even know what time slot or channel it's on, but it's my observation that no TF show had any large number of female characters compared to males. Beast Wars was hardly an exception, with only 2 canon female characters. G1 had a vast number of male characters, yet only Ariel/Elita-1, Nightbird, Arcee, Beta, Chromia, Firestar, Moonracer and Arcee to make up the female counterparts with anything more than just cameo appearances. Of those only Arcee and Ariel/Elita-1 were seen in more than one episode.

These numbers stand in contrast to the apparently large female fanbase of the transformer shows (albeit I don't know too many girls who liked the tf live action films..)

[Venatrix]

G1 had a vast number of male characters, yet only Ariel/Elita-1, Nightbird, Arcee, Beta, Chromia, Firestar, Moonracer and Arcee to make up the female counterparts with anything more than just cameo appearances.

Sorry, but i just HAD to comment on the fact you named Arcee twice

[Phoenix]

I did? Guess I did! Trapped you into showing yourself though, ya lurker.

[Venatrix]

Slag.... BUSTED!

LOL

[Beastbot]

Nonono I meant why can't there be more femmes in the TFP fandom? I was hoping the creators of TFP could make a Prime version of canon femmes such as Nightbird or G1 Elita. If I could remember, someone in a website (I forgot) said Airachnid was Elita 1 because Elita 1's was kidnapped, rebuilt and reprogrammed by a decepticon, that's how Airachnid was created. I'm not sure if this statement is true but I hope it's not.

Ah OK. Well if it's simply an "I wish" statement I understand you. But if you want actual answers, I can give you a "real" and "in-canon" answer.
Real answer: TFs are primarily seen as a boys' toy line and boys in the age they're targeting don't want icky poo-poo cootie girls. How accurate this is is up for debate, but that's the way of thinking.
In-canon answer: The 13 original Primes were prototypes of all the Transformers to come. One of the original 13 was a female, Solus Prime, the forger of the Legendary Weapons (you saw her hammer in a recent episode). Thus, roughly one out of every 13 of the present Transformers is a "female". (Quotes used because there aren't really Transformers sexes in the traditional sense in the current canon, they're just different body types.)

As for the backstory you heard on Airachnid, it's total bunk. Beyond working as a Decepticon torturer way back when and her feud with Arcee that were both revealed in Airachnid's debut episode, we don't know her past. Now in Animated, Blackarachnia used to be Elita-1 who then got inadvertently left for dead during a mission by Optimus and Sentinel when in fact she wasn't, and in her new technorganic form she renamed herself Blackarachnia and joined the Decepticons mostly out of spite. (See the link I provided above for Animated Blackarachnia for the full story if you don't know about it.) But that's as close as Elita-1 has ever come to being a Decepticon.

[Alak]

So apparently just-hatched Insecticons are a LOT easier to kill than ones that have been woken for some time.

[DarkSpark]

Well... it was a filler episode this weekend, but at least the ending was funny. While I may be looking too deep into the matter, there were possibly some hints dropped about future events.

- We may get to see a big, final showdown between Arcee and Airachnid before Season 2 ends.
- There's a possibility for Dreadwing to switch sides.

Well, Airachnid's apparently on ice now, I can't help but feel they'll be saving her for some spooky episode where she breaks out, goes on a rampage through the base in horror movie type fashion, before ultimately facing off against Arcee once more (and hopefully being killed off at last, blasted BA wannabe).

I hope not, with Breakdown dead and Starscream and Airachnid rogue, the cons need all the named characters they can get, god knows those copy paste vehicons are no help in the grand scheme of things being mere "puddy patrol" type grunt baddies. If Dreadwing ever does switch sides, I hope its not until WAY into the future, since he's only just rejoined Megatron's forces and become his righthand con. Oh yeah, and I also noticed how these new insecticons are ALOT more fragile than before, considering how Arcee was no match for the one they fought on Cybertron and the one Megatron faced nearly killed him and took all his strength and skill to defeat. Now even Arcee and the others can shoot them down, as opposed to the insecticons being Megatron & Optimus Prime level warriors minus the brain power to go with their brute strength and fighting prowess.

Starscream's performance as of late has been sadly lacking...I mean really, if Wheeljack can be reimagined as a disgruntled commando and Bumblebee an R2D2 standin, why can't Starscream be legitimately competent and powerful? At the beginning of the series he seemed to actually have a good head on his shoulders and display a real knack for scheming and strategy, as well as demonstrate the ability to frighten the other cons ranking beneath him, i.e. we could see why Megs made him second in command in the first place as well as how he could conceivably pose a threat to his master's throne. However, he seems to have been reduced to mere comedy relief as of late and can't seem to hold his own against ANYONE, whether it be a mere scout like Bumblebee or a pack of humans. Granted, he's been without his T-Cog for a while, and hopefully will have it back now that he has one of his clones to salvage parts from, but even before then he displayed a shocking lack of skill and strength for someone who'd managed to gain the number 2 spot in Megatron's inner circle (given the serious and realistic feel of this show at times, you'd think Screamer would have to possess SOME real merit in order to elevate himself that far).

P.S. I also agree the show needs more fembots, particularly ones who aren't cheap knockoffs of past fembots, i.e. Airachnid. However, I'd welcome Nightbird as a con, or Elita 1 as an autobot, hell, Moonracer or Thunderblast would be cool to see even. I mean, Arcee and Airachnid can't be the ONLY fembots in the entire universe right? Most of all however, I'd be impressed if they actually created BRAND NEW fembot characters for both sides, I mean, just pick a vehicle mode and make a female robot mode to go with it, simple. Fans have been wanting see more of this for a long time, they'd be praised for it.

[Alak]

Just finished Tunnel Vision. Insecticon power levels are bouncing around again. I feel it's the cartoon mentality that dictates: the fewer the villains, the more powerful they are (with the opposite being true).